SB 10.62.27 – The interesting difference between pastimes in spiritual & material world ! 

Srimad Bhagavatam – 10.62.27 | HH Bhanu Swami Maharaj | May 6, 2025! 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vāsudevāya 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vāsudevāya 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vāsudevāya 

nama om vishnu-padaya krishna-preshthaya bhu-tale 
srimate bhaktivedanta-svamin iti namine 

namas te sarasvate deve gaura-vani-pracharine 
nirvishesha-shunyavadi-pashchatya-desha-tarine 

jaya sri-krishna-chaitanya 

prabhu nityananda 

sri-adwaita gadadhara 

shrivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrinda 

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare 

Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare 

Reading from Srimad Bhagavatham Canto 10 Chapter 62 Verse 27. 

ŚB 10.62.27 

अनपायिभिरस्माभिर्गुप्तायाश्च गृहे प्रभो । 
कन्याया दूषणं पुम्भिर्दुष्प्रेक्ष्याया न विद्महे ॥ २७ ॥ 

anapāyibhir asmābhir 
guptāyāś ca gṛhe prabho 
kanyāyā dūṣaṇaṁ pumbhir 
duṣprekṣyāyā na vidmahe 

Synonyms 

anapāyibhiḥ — who have never gone away; asmābhiḥ — by us; guptāyāḥ — of her who has been well guarded; ca — and; gṛhe — within the palace; prabho — O master; kanyāyāḥ — of the maiden; dūṣaṇam — the polluting; pumbhiḥ — by men; duṣprekṣyāyāḥ — impossible to be seen; na vidmahe — we do not understand. 

Translation 

“We have been carefully watching over her, never leaving our posts, O master, so we cannot understand how this maiden, whom no man can even see, has been corrupted within the palace.” 

Purport 

The ācāryas explain that the word anapāyibhiḥ can mean either “never going away” or “never deluded.” Also, if we take the alternate reading duṣpreṣyāyāḥ instead of duṣprekṣyāyāḥ, the guards refer to Ūṣā as “she whose wicked girlfriend has been sent on a mission.” 

HH Bhanu Swami Maharaj: 

So, in this part of the story, we see that the guards had been constantly protecting this daughter. The first word is ‘anapāyibhih’, which means they’re constantly with her. This word, ‘anapāyibhih’, is often used for Lakshmi, because Lakshmi is always with Vishnu. So she’s called ‘anapāyibhih’, always accompanying Vishnu. But in this case, this is referring to the guards. The guards were in front of her room, and they were constantly there, in that sense, accompanying her, to guard her. So, why were they guarding her? So, as it is later explained, the daughters, ‘kanya’, who are unmarried, have to be protected. And protected so much, in this case, that no one can see her.  

So, we’ll find in many of the stories that the women are kept in what we call the inner chambers of the palace, not in the outer rooms of the palace, but way inside, in the center of the palace, which is the most guarded area. For instance, when we see that Sudama went to Dwarka, and then he went through the outer gates, then the inner gates, then more gates, and more gates. Finally, he got into the inner palace, and there was Krishna and Rukmini, but there were so many guards and walls around it. So, family members and children and wife are well-guarded. So, there is particular care taken for the ‘kanya’, the unmarried daughters. And we’ll see in the Bhagavatam, there’s many stories of daughters of kings, and Krishna may marry them, like Rukmini, etc. So, until the marriage, they’re well protected. So the reason is that they are waiting for a marriage, the parents are waiting for the marriage of the daughter. And implied here is that the parents are going to arrange the marriage. That’s why she’s protected. 

So the daughters are not to go out and just freely mix with everybody and develop a love marriage. In fact, any contact with a man is considered to be contamination. So, that’s why it says, ‘dūṣaṇaḥ’, already she’s been contaminated. Now, the guards, of course, were always there, so it’s puzzling, how did he get in there? But we know that, ultimately, it was because of the powers of Chitralekha, who was like a magician, and yogi, whatever, so she had brought Aniruddha there by some mystical process. And that’s why it says in the purport here, there’s the other version of this, ‘duṣprekṣyāyā’, so ‘prekṣyāyā’ means to be sent, to send to a group, send away. So, here is ‘duṣprekṣyāyā’, which means wickedly sending away. So, to send away with some bad intentions. So, Usha sent Chitralekha out of the palace to bring Aniruddha. So, then part of the blame goes to Chitralekha, so therefore she’s called a wicked person who was sent away because she brought Aniruddha.  

So, as I said, the daughters are well protected until their marriage. And we see here, Banasura, he went into the room and there he saw Aniruddha. As I explained, Aniruddha is also an expansion of the Lord. So, we have a nice description of Aniruddha. What is the description? He looks just like the Supreme Lord. He has lotus eyes, he has yellow cloth, he has blue complexion. He’s also described as the son of cupid. So, of course, cupid often is described as very, very beautiful. Of course, Krishna is described as been more beautiful than millions of cupids. But in any case, when we talk of cupid, it means a very, very beautiful person.  

So, Pradyumna is considered to also be cupid, even though he’s the Supreme Lord. So we are talking about cupid, so Pradyumna, though he is expansion of the Supreme Lord, he is also considered to be cupid. So cupid actually entered into the body of Pradyumna, so therefore he’s cupid in that sense. So, the normal cupid is the material Devata. And Pradyumna is not a material person, but somehow cupid is allowed to enter into him. So, he’s actually a spiritual cupid. So, Pradyumna was very beautiful, and when he first appeared in the palace, everybody thought, oh, this is Krishna. So, his son was Aniruddha, and Aniruddha was very beautiful also. So therefore, it is not surprising that Usha or any woman would be attracted to him. Of course, we know that the Lord has eternal consorts. Usha is an eternal consort? Ultimately, yes. It just says we have Vishnu with Lakshmi, or Krishna with Rukmini, so again, we have Aniruddha with Usha. So, she’s actually an eternal consort. So, we have the Lord and we have his Shakti. So, they are eternally related. And thus the word used for Lakshmi is ‘anapāyibhih’, she never leaves the side of Vishnu. She’s eternally the consort of Vishnu. 

So, just as Krishna has His eternal consorts, Vishnu has His eternal consorts, so the expansions from Krishna, that is Aniruddha and Pradyumna, they have their eternal consorts also. However, when we have the material world, the pastimes of the Lord in the material world, then at a certain point, the Lord obtains the consort. So, Krishna obtains Rukmini and the queens at a certain point in time ultimately, it’s eternal, but within the pastimes, in the material world, there are events which lead to their marriage etc…  

So, the other day, Nitai was asking about the difference between the spiritual world and the material world. One of the differences was that there are no demons in the spiritual world. Another difference is that Krishna grows up in the material world to Kaishore age. Similarly, of course, Aniruddha and Pradyumna also grow up, so in the spiritual world, they don’t grow, they’re always the same age. So, this is another difference. In the Spiritual world, Lord is there with His consorts eternally; in the material world, they get married at a certain point of time. So, thus we find in the Bhagavatam, Krishna getting married to Rukmini and Satyabhama, etc., in the spiritual world, they’re eternally married. 

So, similarly here, we have Aniruddha getting married; in the spiritual world, its eternal, but here, he is getting married. So, these pastimes of marriage that take place when the Lord appears in the material world, are an opportunity for rasa. So, in separation, we’ll see there is longing. We see how Rukmini was writing a letter to Krishna, longing for Krishna, she says, please save me from these demons, Sisupala wants to marry me or something like this, so she is writing letters like this.  Similarly we have Usha, very attracted to Aniruddha.  

So, this longing before meeting is technically called purva-rāga. And we see in the example of the Gopis, before the rasa līlā, they’d never met Krishna directly, but they would start singing about him and whatever, and praising him, and whatever. We find even the young girls were worshipping Kātyāyani to get Krishna as their husband. So, eventually, marriage is an opportunity for the Lord to show ‘virya’, fighting with the opponents. And it gives an opportunity for the Lord to show his various powers. For instance, to tame the seven bulls, Krishna expanded himself into seven forms. 

So, it gives an opportunity for Krishna to show His skill and His intelligence. And of course, also, Krishna will have His attraction for those particular queens. So, in this case, we have Aniruddha. Usha is attracted to Aniruddha. He is attracted to her. And we see here, they’re engaging in pastimes of playing.  

We see there is verses how Aniruddha is attracted to Usha, and therefore, he’s playing dice with her, etc. And he is so absorbed in her that he’s unaware of time passing, and many months are passing, and he’s enjoying with her. So, in this way, we have displays of powers of Supreme Lord in order to attain marriage. So, in this way, we get wonderful display of the Lord’s qualities, and of course in this case, Aniruddha, expansion of the Lord, we get display of his qualities. And ultimately, as I said, they’re eternally related, Usha and Aniruddha. And they cannot really be separated by Banasura.  

Okay, Hare Krsna! 

Q&A 

1) You mentioned the difference between the spiritual world pastime and material pastime. The material world is following the time aspect, certain time marriage, certain time separation, certain time meeting, certain time event. But the spiritual world is eternal. You said, why create certain time marriage, like other events. You mentioned the opportunity for rasa. But what about the spiritual world? In the spiritual world, they have rasa, right?  

HH Bhanu Swami Maharaj: Yeah. 

Devotee: But more variety of create another more variety of the rasa in the material world pastime.  

HH Bhanu Swami Maharaj: Yeah, so the question is that, compare to spiritual world rasa material world rasa seems to be a little more variety. Because we get marriages, we get demons coming, we get Krishna in His Kaishora age, plus His Agandha age, plus His Kaumara age. 

Vishwanath Chakravarti says that some authorities say that therefore, the pastimes in the material world are more attractive than those in the spiritual world… some authorities say this… And therefore, perhaps for this reason, we get into that maybe that’s why Krishna performs the pastimes. Because mother Yasoda wants to have pastimes with Krishna in the Kaumara age instead of in Kaishora age.  

So, then we can ask the question, well, that means the spiritual world is not perfect. The answer to that is, when the pastimes appear in the material world, that’s also the spiritual world. So, we can say this one aspect of the spiritual world.  

Devotee: Even Dhurvaloka also. 

HH Bhanu Swami Maharaj: Yeah, that’s also the spiritual world.  

2) Is Vipralamba in the spiritual world?  

So, Vipralamba is actually part of separation in the Madhurya rasa. And in describing the different rasas, not only Madhurya rasa, other rasas, when it comes to the Sthayi-bhava and Prema, it has two sections, meeting and separation, for all the rasas. So, it’s eternal, both aspects. 

Now, there’s another difference between the material world and the spiritual world, and that is Krishna’s pastimes in the material world. Krishna leaves Vrindavan for a long time. 

You don’t see that in the spiritual world. However, there is still separation in the spiritual world. For instance, every day Krishna goes out in the fields, and he leaves mother Yashoda for a duration. So, there is shorter separation in the spiritual world. That’s Vipalamba also. There’s another type of separation.  

3) It sounds like even in the spiritual world, there is a time aspect. 

Yeah, there’s day and night, Krishna going out in the field, coming back in the evening, Krishna going out for rasalila, morning coming, Krishna going back to His bed, and then getting up in the morning. So, there is time in the spiritual world also.  

Devotee: But it’s different in the material world. 

HH Bhanu Swami Maharaj: It’s time for pastimes. There must be a sense of time in order to have a pastime. For any action, there has to be time. If there’s no time, there’s no action. So, there is a sense of time there.  So, there are different types of separation. Of course, one is they separate actually. Another is, even when Krishna, let’s say the queens of Dwaraka and Krishna are together, there’s a feeling of separation. Even together, even when they are with Krishna, they feel the separation. Because of their intense love, then they think that Krishna is not even there when he’s right there. So, therefore we do have separation in the spiritual world. 

4) [Maharaj repeating the question] So, his question is that in the modern world, people are also associating without marriage like Aniruddha. 

So, they’re inspired by Supreme Lord. So, he’s setting a bad example for us.  So, Pariksit actually asked this question when Sukadeva begins to describe the Rasalila, and he says, well, how can this be that Krishna is doing this because he is supposed to set a good example of Dharma?  

So, when Sukadeva tries to explain the Rasalila to Pariksit, Pariksit says to Sukadeva, Sukadeva answers that the Supreme Lord ultimately is free to do anything He wants, and He’s above Dharma and generally he follows Dharma to inspire people. But He is free, He’s beyond Dharma, so sometimes He may go against Dharma. 

So, what do the common people do? They don’t follow every action of the Lord, they don’t imitate, they follow His instructions. So, an example is given, Shiva drinks the poison. We follow the instructions given by great personalities or the Supreme Lord. So, we shouldn’t imitate that and drink poison. So, we follow the instructions given by great personalities or the Supreme Lord [laughs]. 

Hare Krishna. 

Devotees: Grantharaj Srimad Bhagavatham ki jai!!! HH Bhanu Swami Maharaj ki jai!!!